netfilter users mailing list in other languages ?

[Jean-Philippe Le Hénaff]

I'm agree with Fabrice, if there is people who want to create a
mailing-list in French, why not ?
It is the same thing for the howto translation, isn't it ?
Or maybe you want to stop it too ...

JP

Fabrice MARIE wrote:
> 
> On Thursday 02 August 2001 11:45, Thierry ITTY wrote:
> > >This is one problem sure. But now that what a mailing admin is for.
> > >To translate back and forth the interesting part. I don't mind doing
> > >this. And I believe it is very good for the netfilter community.
> >
> > well, this solves actually the problem of having several mailing lists on
> > the same subject in different languages. if you agree to summarize and
> > translate interesting french threads in english and post then to the
> > english list, and conversely post french summaries from the english list,
> > of course it's great !
> > for sure it would be stupid that we keep in separate groups that meet the
> > same problems and solve them appart without knowing about each others. this
> > could make sense for some localized problems which are handled differently
> > depending upon the culture or the country, such as laws about naming bars
> > ;-), but of course it would be silly regarding things like netfilter, for
> > which a solution to a given problem is not related to any geographical
> > specificity.
> > exchanging together through this summarization/translation system makes it
> > sensible (but what a work !!!)
> 
> We can even have a system where several people would translate the summaries
> back and forth for each language, (provided there are enough volunteers)
> to balance the load of the translation work.
> 
> > >What do the core team think about having different user mailing lists
> > >in other languages ?
> > >I believe the netfilter-devel must definitely stay in English though...
> >
> > I think the number of developers or persons interested in the development
> > of netfilter is low enough to prohibit versions of this list in other
> > languages, whereas this restriction does not apply to the netfilter users
> > list.
> > [...]
> > On easy solution to the question (french list) could also be to encourage
> > french speaking people to subscribe the (unique) netfilter users list even
> > if they are not reading english, providing them answers in french whenever
> > needed. This is in my opinion the richest solution, in the way that
> > - everybody accesses the message
> > - everybody can get answers, in the same language the question was asked
> > - archive searching gets all documents whatever the language is (most often
> > searches are done only on IT words like "DNAT FTP static route") and if
> > interesting answers are found in language that one doesn't speak it might
> > be more interesting that no answer at all
> > - interesting threads could be summarized and translated (in either
> > direction). btw interesting threads should always be summarized !
> > - of course if we find volunteers for other languages they'd be welcomed !
> 
> I definitely agree. I really would like to see this happening and
> especially not only for French, but for a lot of other languages.
> Any volunteers speaking other languages ? Voice out !
> 
> > Si nous avons chacun un objet et que nous les echangeons,
> >    nous avons encore chacun un objet.
> > Si nous avons chacun une idee et que nous les echangeons,
> >    nous avons alors chacun deux idees.
> 
> This signature is interesting enough to be translated actually ;-)
> " If each of us have one object, and we exchange them,
>      then each of us still have one object.
>   If each of us have one idea,   and we exchange them,
>      then each of us now have two ideas."
> 
> Have a nice day,
> Fabrice.
> --
> Fabrice MARIE
> R&D Engineer
> Celestix Networks
> http://www.celestix.com/
> 
> "Silly hacker, root is for administrators"
>        -Unknown